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sri1309
09-12 06:09 PM
Please do not try to thwart the campaign. We are trying to address a specific issue, which is about blocking approvals when dates are current, and for that, we are using this current fiasco as an example. The USCIS memo specifically talks about EB2 india, china applicants on hold. Since EB3 was listed as U, we cannot do anything about it. If both EB2 and EB3 were current, I would have given a call to both. There is no belittling out here. the Circumstances are like that.
EB2 and EB3 are working together in the visa re-cpature.
This is a separate issue, but will be useful when visa re-capture is successful.
Guys,
Lets not strictly follow what USCIS did and did not do in memo. We are all seeing the entire drama for the last 3-4 years.
Every EB3 after a little more experience gets qualified into EB2. Cant the department understand this , which we all do. There is no order. Lets together fight for a common cause and not discrimiate between Eb2 or EB3.
Commonsense rule is , if you are allowing 10 H1s to be processed, then why are you processing only 2-3 Greencards. What abot the remaining 7 and why should they wait, even after 8 years???.
Spillover and quotas are all BS.
Lets raise our voice together and see if they follow some discipline.
Anyone more than 8-10 years of being in the US and who followed the rules with merit deserves citizenship. Lets voice together as a campaign and get it straight. Yes, I am in the US for 9 years now..
Sri.
EB2 and EB3 are working together in the visa re-cpature.
This is a separate issue, but will be useful when visa re-capture is successful.
Guys,
Lets not strictly follow what USCIS did and did not do in memo. We are all seeing the entire drama for the last 3-4 years.
Every EB3 after a little more experience gets qualified into EB2. Cant the department understand this , which we all do. There is no order. Lets together fight for a common cause and not discrimiate between Eb2 or EB3.
Commonsense rule is , if you are allowing 10 H1s to be processed, then why are you processing only 2-3 Greencards. What abot the remaining 7 and why should they wait, even after 8 years???.
Spillover and quotas are all BS.
Lets raise our voice together and see if they follow some discipline.
Anyone more than 8-10 years of being in the US and who followed the rules with merit deserves citizenship. Lets voice together as a campaign and get it straight. Yes, I am in the US for 9 years now..
Sri.
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nogc_noproblem
08-22 01:26 PM
08/22/2008: Wild Forest Fire Sweeping Chinese and Indian Websites
The USCIS has been delaying release of the August 15, 2008 USCIS processing time reports and so-called certain government agency processing tracking sites have been reporting slow-down of the EB-2 I-485 applications for the Indians and Chinese. Triggered in part by these evidence, the Indian and Chinese EB-2 I-485 waiters are literally consuming their emotions through the Indian and Chinese websites. However, we are still in August and have yet to reach the September 2008 Visa Bulletin which was released by the State Department assumedly after consulting with the USCIS, and there is absolutely no evidence at this point that the FY 2008 EB-2 visa numbers have already been exhausted. People should calm down, keep patience, and wait for the agencies' announcements, if any.
The USCIS has been delaying release of the August 15, 2008 USCIS processing time reports and so-called certain government agency processing tracking sites have been reporting slow-down of the EB-2 I-485 applications for the Indians and Chinese. Triggered in part by these evidence, the Indian and Chinese EB-2 I-485 waiters are literally consuming their emotions through the Indian and Chinese websites. However, we are still in August and have yet to reach the September 2008 Visa Bulletin which was released by the State Department assumedly after consulting with the USCIS, and there is absolutely no evidence at this point that the FY 2008 EB-2 visa numbers have already been exhausted. People should calm down, keep patience, and wait for the agencies' announcements, if any.
sweet_jungle
09-12 01:11 PM
This thread starts with a call to all the EB2 people. Is it only the EB2 people suffering due to USCIS actions? Or are EB2 applicants a distinguised lot that they dont want EB3 to join with them?
It is so depressing to see the attitude of some of these guys !!! There have been so many threads explaining the difference(or indifference) between the qualifications of the applicants.
The suffering has been equally bad or even much worse for the EB3 applicants. I am an EB3 2003 applicant and my suffering has been equally painful. The campaign should be about fair treatment to every applicant, not alone EB2 or EB3.
Any campaign will only be successful when we try to do something together.
If you yourself are belittling the EB3 applicants, why do you have higher expectations from the American Citizens/Government.
Thanks for having the patience to read my post, YOU BIG BROTHER EB2 applicant :-P
Please do not try to thwart the campaign. We are trying to address a specific issue, which is about blocking approvals when dates are current, and for that, we are using this current fiasco as an example. The USCIS memo specifically talks about EB2 india, china applicants on hold. Since EB3 was listed as U, we cannot do anything about it. If both EB2 and EB3 were current, I would have given a call to both. There is no belittling out here. the Circumstances are like that.
EB2 and EB3 are working together in the visa re-cpature.
This is a separate issue, but will be useful when visa re-capture is successful.
It is so depressing to see the attitude of some of these guys !!! There have been so many threads explaining the difference(or indifference) between the qualifications of the applicants.
The suffering has been equally bad or even much worse for the EB3 applicants. I am an EB3 2003 applicant and my suffering has been equally painful. The campaign should be about fair treatment to every applicant, not alone EB2 or EB3.
Any campaign will only be successful when we try to do something together.
If you yourself are belittling the EB3 applicants, why do you have higher expectations from the American Citizens/Government.
Thanks for having the patience to read my post, YOU BIG BROTHER EB2 applicant :-P
Please do not try to thwart the campaign. We are trying to address a specific issue, which is about blocking approvals when dates are current, and for that, we are using this current fiasco as an example. The USCIS memo specifically talks about EB2 india, china applicants on hold. Since EB3 was listed as U, we cannot do anything about it. If both EB2 and EB3 were current, I would have given a call to both. There is no belittling out here. the Circumstances are like that.
EB2 and EB3 are working together in the visa re-cpature.
This is a separate issue, but will be useful when visa re-capture is successful.
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ssreenu
04-14 12:26 PM
Can we rope in organizations like those mentioned in the subject line for our cause?
What exactly do you mean to do? Throw in your ideas and nothing will be spared...
What exactly do you mean to do? Throw in your ideas and nothing will be spared...
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I_Luv_GC
07-17 07:29 PM
Congratulations to everyone...and especially IV Core Team..You guys really ROCK...This acheivement wouldn't be possible without your dedicated hard work..I can't thank enough for your extraordinary efforts for this great accomplishment...Our good wishes and contributions will always be with you in all your future efforts..
bsbawa10
02-25 11:52 AM
Very good idea. Actually I have sent this suggestion as part of the mail to ombudsman .
[url]http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=23280[/url
'realizeit' has used very good terminology.
Thank you.
I will do the same right now. Many thanks "realizeit".
Also to one of the comments in this thread "It makes too much sense...". I fully agree with what you say about USCIS's loosing money. However, this suggestion will put them on the spot. At least they have to answer about why they are not willing to do so in case they say "no" (Obviously, they will not be able to say , they loose money).
[url]http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=23280[/url
'realizeit' has used very good terminology.
Thank you.
I will do the same right now. Many thanks "realizeit".
Also to one of the comments in this thread "It makes too much sense...". I fully agree with what you say about USCIS's loosing money. However, this suggestion will put them on the spot. At least they have to answer about why they are not willing to do so in case they say "no" (Obviously, they will not be able to say , they loose money).
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dwhuser
08-12 12:54 PM
People we have a question, throw us some light now that our application officailly falls under current dates....
Our service center is Texas Center and the dates -
Priority Date - Oct 18 2004
485 Received Date - Aug 17th 2007
485 Notice Date - Oct 16th 2007
The current processing time for Texas Service Center is August 23rd 2007. Do they process based on reciept date or notice date? From the past experience we know that they donot process based on priority dates (We have been current for 3 times in the past and saw approvals for PD's in 2006 with earlier notice and receipt dates)
Our service center is Texas Center and the dates -
Priority Date - Oct 18 2004
485 Received Date - Aug 17th 2007
485 Notice Date - Oct 16th 2007
The current processing time for Texas Service Center is August 23rd 2007. Do they process based on reciept date or notice date? From the past experience we know that they donot process based on priority dates (We have been current for 3 times in the past and saw approvals for PD's in 2006 with earlier notice and receipt dates)
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polapragada
09-14 01:33 AM
your frustration at IV and the core.
You can do that and IV (core or its members) will not bite at you, because we know we are all part of the same movement, with the same frustrations, pain and stress associated with uncertainty. What is really needed is channelling the frustration toward action, mobilization and support at the grass roots.
The opposition is strong. But if we are to succeed, we need to work together. IV work is not easy. Takes time, commitment and money. Lots of people have been trying to do it for a long long time now. But circumstances and uncertainty/unpredictability associated with the legislature and governmental agency(ies) have always been the deterrent for IV's success.
Reversal of July 07 VB, multi-year EAD, Extended OPT etc. - IV has played significant roles. Under tough circumstances, IV has been able to obtain temporary measures that provide interim relief to you and posterity.
The day will come when retrogression will become history. But nobody knows what the calendar date of that day is. I surely hope that the day falls in 2008.
As a start, have you looked at the High-Five campaign started by a IV member? Please donate $5 for that campaign. That is the least you can do.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20183
Well said
You can do that and IV (core or its members) will not bite at you, because we know we are all part of the same movement, with the same frustrations, pain and stress associated with uncertainty. What is really needed is channelling the frustration toward action, mobilization and support at the grass roots.
The opposition is strong. But if we are to succeed, we need to work together. IV work is not easy. Takes time, commitment and money. Lots of people have been trying to do it for a long long time now. But circumstances and uncertainty/unpredictability associated with the legislature and governmental agency(ies) have always been the deterrent for IV's success.
Reversal of July 07 VB, multi-year EAD, Extended OPT etc. - IV has played significant roles. Under tough circumstances, IV has been able to obtain temporary measures that provide interim relief to you and posterity.
The day will come when retrogression will become history. But nobody knows what the calendar date of that day is. I surely hope that the day falls in 2008.
As a start, have you looked at the High-Five campaign started by a IV member? Please donate $5 for that campaign. That is the least you can do.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20183
Well said
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santb1975
11-26 11:56 AM
you definately kept our hopes up with your contribution.
Contributed $100 just now. Google Order #626789966911111
Thanks IV for all your efforts
Contributed $100 just now. Google Order #626789966911111
Thanks IV for all your efforts
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PlainSpeak
04-15 09:17 PM
Sorry if you misunderstood.
I have no sympathy for you
No actually i understood very clearly what you are. You have no sympathy because i disagree with you. Dont know if i should feel sorry or sad for you
I have no sympathy for you
No actually i understood very clearly what you are. You have no sympathy because i disagree with you. Dont know if i should feel sorry or sad for you
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a2006
04-12 12:59 PM
USCIS do have some checks and balances for the subst labor cases, so its not a staright approvals for the lab subst cases. their might be a possibility few lucky ones get off the hook, but overall USCIS can weed out the dubious/fraudulent employer petitions.
Sub labor is not the only reason guys, its just the country cap which is limiting india EB-3 and EB-2. Most of the H1Bs like us coming to us ends up applying for GC, now look at the number of H1Bs coming each year from india and the total number of GCs available for india. Their is a huge gap in these numbers, so unless they remove the country cap or recaptured unused VISA numbers from the past years, we dont see any relief.
Please donate to IV and help lobbying for the admin fixes or the laws which going to help us in the long run.
True, and from 2000 to 2003, the h1b quota was increased to 195,000 to accommodate the IT boom. All the petitions that got stuck in BEC's and name checks have to come out at some point. These number gets multiplied by at least 2 because of the dependent visas. So with limited visa numbers and country quota we are stuck unless some relief happens!!!
There is no point in trying to blame somebody for these issues.
Sub labor is not the only reason guys, its just the country cap which is limiting india EB-3 and EB-2. Most of the H1Bs like us coming to us ends up applying for GC, now look at the number of H1Bs coming each year from india and the total number of GCs available for india. Their is a huge gap in these numbers, so unless they remove the country cap or recaptured unused VISA numbers from the past years, we dont see any relief.
Please donate to IV and help lobbying for the admin fixes or the laws which going to help us in the long run.
True, and from 2000 to 2003, the h1b quota was increased to 195,000 to accommodate the IT boom. All the petitions that got stuck in BEC's and name checks have to come out at some point. These number gets multiplied by at least 2 because of the dependent visas. So with limited visa numbers and country quota we are stuck unless some relief happens!!!
There is no point in trying to blame somebody for these issues.
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angelfire76
02-25 06:56 PM
The implications here are
1. USCIS cannot review the 485 application any time after it's been adjudicated and issue the physical card as soon as a visa number becomes available. In the light of fraud being rampant in the immigration system and given that the validity of an application is a sample at that time and economic circumstance, it's not easy to impose such a restriction on the adjudicators
2. Green cards are technically for a future job, whose description has been provided in the labor petition. In one way the RFEs issued during 485 stage is to ensure that this definition is not violated (ideally i.e.)
3. It will be perceived as a "whine". Given the freedom that EAD and AP provides to the recepient compared to the work visa, I don't know how sympathetic lawmakers will be to your cause.
1. USCIS cannot review the 485 application any time after it's been adjudicated and issue the physical card as soon as a visa number becomes available. In the light of fraud being rampant in the immigration system and given that the validity of an application is a sample at that time and economic circumstance, it's not easy to impose such a restriction on the adjudicators
2. Green cards are technically for a future job, whose description has been provided in the labor petition. In one way the RFEs issued during 485 stage is to ensure that this definition is not violated (ideally i.e.)
3. It will be perceived as a "whine". Given the freedom that EAD and AP provides to the recepient compared to the work visa, I don't know how sympathetic lawmakers will be to your cause.
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Ajax57
05-30 11:38 PM
Thank you for quick reply gc_vbin. We are trying to also get rid of some middle names along with surname change
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newbie2020
02-25 12:02 PM
The idea needs to be taken to the next step, How about a conference call....I can provide a Bridge for the call
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fatjoe
08-22 08:42 PM
What documents were u asked to submit...could you please enlist....well June 25 is fairly recent....you should be fine then.
Mine was RFE last November......and am not sure what's the status is....
u shld take a infopass appt.
SoP
Our interview lasted about 45 mins, and the District Adjudication Officer (DAO)DAO asked a use so many questions like our first date of entry, last date entry, dob of our kids, employer letter, latest pay stubs, 3 most recent W2 - all for me and my spouse, ; all related to our valid status in US, Also, our expired EAD and AP(Originals) , current EAD, I-140 doc, current H1, FP notices - I guess she asked for almost all possible docs, and asked us to hand over the photo copies.
She had all our documents(starting from earliest H1 to current H1, Birth certificates, Medicals exams, ect in front of her, and looked like she double checked the docs.
Mine was RFE last November......and am not sure what's the status is....
u shld take a infopass appt.
SoP
Our interview lasted about 45 mins, and the District Adjudication Officer (DAO)DAO asked a use so many questions like our first date of entry, last date entry, dob of our kids, employer letter, latest pay stubs, 3 most recent W2 - all for me and my spouse, ; all related to our valid status in US, Also, our expired EAD and AP(Originals) , current EAD, I-140 doc, current H1, FP notices - I guess she asked for almost all possible docs, and asked us to hand over the photo copies.
She had all our documents(starting from earliest H1 to current H1, Birth certificates, Medicals exams, ect in front of her, and looked like she double checked the docs.
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Administrator2
09-18 12:04 AM
madhuvj or GCStatus,
Thanks for your suggestion. But the problem is its not that simple. Here is why. If the same individual create multiple IDs on IV and post using multiple IDs, one for posting derogatory comments and others that are not derogatory, we can keep mum to a point, but then it just gets too frustrating. Like in this case, madhuvj and GCStatus is the same person posting from the same machine but posting as if you are two different individuals. Hence my posts. Please stop this and email/pm us your phone number and we will start the transition process. We are sure you will do a better job than us.
You see, just like everyone else, we also have limited number of hours in a day. We can either spend our time looking at who is using multiple forum ids to post similar messages creating a false impression for other forum visitor, like the one projected in 'if i can be blunt' thread, or we can spend our time doing things better than looking for duplicate forum ids. Your actions are not helping anyone, including yourself. Hope you understand.
Administrator2,
I know you guys have been doing a great job. I joined around july last year and have been a regular visitor to your site. Actually, I was just active on the thread that GCStatus has started. I dont think he ever used derogatory statements against any of the admin. Infact, he has posted for a help from admin on more than 4 occassions with out any proper response. Actually, If you look at this thread, it was some one else who had commented admins are on vacation and will not be back until july 2009. It was not GCStatus who said that. He just replied to that . He had no clue about what you guys are up to. So let us stop this leadership fight. Now that, you have clearly told you cannot hardwire that thread on the front page. Well, we cant do much about it now, since we are at your help here. If you think, GCStatus has said any thing bad about you, please can you post it, because i did not find any comments about admin.
Thanks
VJ
Thanks for your suggestion. But the problem is its not that simple. Here is why. If the same individual create multiple IDs on IV and post using multiple IDs, one for posting derogatory comments and others that are not derogatory, we can keep mum to a point, but then it just gets too frustrating. Like in this case, madhuvj and GCStatus is the same person posting from the same machine but posting as if you are two different individuals. Hence my posts. Please stop this and email/pm us your phone number and we will start the transition process. We are sure you will do a better job than us.
You see, just like everyone else, we also have limited number of hours in a day. We can either spend our time looking at who is using multiple forum ids to post similar messages creating a false impression for other forum visitor, like the one projected in 'if i can be blunt' thread, or we can spend our time doing things better than looking for duplicate forum ids. Your actions are not helping anyone, including yourself. Hope you understand.
Administrator2,
I know you guys have been doing a great job. I joined around july last year and have been a regular visitor to your site. Actually, I was just active on the thread that GCStatus has started. I dont think he ever used derogatory statements against any of the admin. Infact, he has posted for a help from admin on more than 4 occassions with out any proper response. Actually, If you look at this thread, it was some one else who had commented admins are on vacation and will not be back until july 2009. It was not GCStatus who said that. He just replied to that . He had no clue about what you guys are up to. So let us stop this leadership fight. Now that, you have clearly told you cannot hardwire that thread on the front page. Well, we cant do much about it now, since we are at your help here. If you think, GCStatus has said any thing bad about you, please can you post it, because i did not find any comments about admin.
Thanks
VJ
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kpchal2
08-13 09:24 PM
also got the following response for a service request i put in. did not know what to make out of it - is it just a regular response or is this true
The status of this service request is:
A review of this case indicates that it appears to be outside of the normal processing times, however processing times that are posted on our internet website are approximate and not exact. This case is considered to be within our current processing time. USCIS is aware that according to the Department of State?s Visa Bulletin, there appear to be visas available however there has been an extremely large volume of case requiring visas. Therefore your category may have already reached the maximum amount of visas available, so please continue to watch the Visa Bulletin in the future to check for visa availability for your category.
I would be damned if they issued a visa bulletin after being aware of the fact that the visas are over. this is just to cause anxiety and stress to people waiting in the line and just playing with their emotions. this is something really horrible and we should take this very very seriously if those fuckin assholes are not doing their job appropriately.
The status of this service request is:
A review of this case indicates that it appears to be outside of the normal processing times, however processing times that are posted on our internet website are approximate and not exact. This case is considered to be within our current processing time. USCIS is aware that according to the Department of State?s Visa Bulletin, there appear to be visas available however there has been an extremely large volume of case requiring visas. Therefore your category may have already reached the maximum amount of visas available, so please continue to watch the Visa Bulletin in the future to check for visa availability for your category.
I would be damned if they issued a visa bulletin after being aware of the fact that the visas are over. this is just to cause anxiety and stress to people waiting in the line and just playing with their emotions. this is something really horrible and we should take this very very seriously if those fuckin assholes are not doing their job appropriately.
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nandakumar
03-09 01:52 PM
I plan to donate via check to avoid paypal commision.
Is there any special instructions for donation thru check?
Is there any special instructions for donation thru check?
Mahatma
07-10 08:37 AM
This is a guess and I have not studied the law book or statutes on immigration law. Per country limit could be an administrative procedure and not as such a mandate by congress. The intent, nuance or spirit of the congress may not match this per country logic being implemented currently. There is just so much mismatch between equality, justness, fairness and nondiscrimination versus imposing per country quota and retrogression. It never made any sense to me. However, every quarter unused visa gets distributed irrespective of country limit. This nullifies the negative effect of per country limit considerably.
Everybody (that includes H1bs) in this country (according to Murthyji and other experts) is entitled to peaceful assembly, seeking justice and participating in improving current system!!
It is the beauty of the system here that sooner or later, people appreciate others point of view and there are enough checks and balances. Judiciary is one such important institution.
Everybody (that includes H1bs) in this country (according to Murthyji and other experts) is entitled to peaceful assembly, seeking justice and participating in improving current system!!
It is the beauty of the system here that sooner or later, people appreciate others point of view and there are enough checks and balances. Judiciary is one such important institution.
GC_Optimist
12-19 08:22 PM
Contributed $25 dollars through Personal Check. IV team please confirm
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