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PlainSpeak
04-15 09:26 PM
You should complain about this to USCIS
I think some one already has talked to Grassely about it
I think some one already has talked to Grassely about it
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gk_2000
06-09 11:05 PM
There is no doubt participation by all is very important. I have also emailed my regional politicians thru IV website and encourage everyone to do the same
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GCVivek
04-14 12:50 PM
It is unfair to say that many EB3 and EB2 folks are stuck in GC queue for more than 10 years, FOR NO FAULT OF THEIRS. Yes, they are stuck but there is fault, in most cases, they knew they were risking it by changing employers for petty raises or other reason. If they followed the original H1B rule and stayed with sponsoring employer, GC for EB3 took a max of 7 years even with the old system of RIR (not PERM) or even without RIR - and that is MAX....very rare.
The aim of this appeal is not to compare or compete with EB1, PhDs, US MS degree holders or discuss other exotic bills!
There are several hundred EB2 / EB3 folks who have continued to live here for several years (many have crossed 10 years). They are stuck in the infinitely long GC line, for no fault of theirs. It is natural that people who have stayed for long have grown up children (who are not US born) and who need to go to a good college for a good future.
It is almost impossible to pay international fees and it is neither fair no appropriate to break the back of genuine law abiding residents, despite the fact that they have lived for
8 / 10 years and have sincerely paid the taxes due to the government, just because they do not have a GC.
For the "sin" of being Indian/ Chinese born and for the "sin" of not being able to get the GC because the rules favour long term indentured labour, an entire upcoming yonger generation should not be allowed to suffer. This is unfair and discriminatory. If any one of us had been from a country other than India and China, we would have obtained out GCs in 3 / 4 years.
The idea is to have the cases of all genuine, hard working, EB2 / EB3 employees who have honestly lived here and are continuing to process the path ot GC legally, be considered from the human angle, more so from the point of view of the education of the children.
When it comes to illegals, people scream about human values, humanitarian considerations, education of their children, family ties etc etc. What about us, who have followed the rules "to the T" ????
Is following the rules, going through the approval complex web of approval processes, paying taxes and trying to lead sedate and simple lives a sin?
Are we not human beings? May be we are labelled "aliens" but we are certainly not from Mars!
So friends, let us be clear in where we stand and what we are pleading for.
Unless we have the conviction and clarity we cannot make any progess!
Long live the unity of EB 2 / EB3 employees!
May the SUPREME POWER bless IV and the genuine forum members!
The aim of this appeal is not to compare or compete with EB1, PhDs, US MS degree holders or discuss other exotic bills!
There are several hundred EB2 / EB3 folks who have continued to live here for several years (many have crossed 10 years). They are stuck in the infinitely long GC line, for no fault of theirs. It is natural that people who have stayed for long have grown up children (who are not US born) and who need to go to a good college for a good future.
It is almost impossible to pay international fees and it is neither fair no appropriate to break the back of genuine law abiding residents, despite the fact that they have lived for
8 / 10 years and have sincerely paid the taxes due to the government, just because they do not have a GC.
For the "sin" of being Indian/ Chinese born and for the "sin" of not being able to get the GC because the rules favour long term indentured labour, an entire upcoming yonger generation should not be allowed to suffer. This is unfair and discriminatory. If any one of us had been from a country other than India and China, we would have obtained out GCs in 3 / 4 years.
The idea is to have the cases of all genuine, hard working, EB2 / EB3 employees who have honestly lived here and are continuing to process the path ot GC legally, be considered from the human angle, more so from the point of view of the education of the children.
When it comes to illegals, people scream about human values, humanitarian considerations, education of their children, family ties etc etc. What about us, who have followed the rules "to the T" ????
Is following the rules, going through the approval complex web of approval processes, paying taxes and trying to lead sedate and simple lives a sin?
Are we not human beings? May be we are labelled "aliens" but we are certainly not from Mars!
So friends, let us be clear in where we stand and what we are pleading for.
Unless we have the conviction and clarity we cannot make any progess!
Long live the unity of EB 2 / EB3 employees!
May the SUPREME POWER bless IV and the genuine forum members!
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sabhayk
04-18 11:09 AM
Guys,
I have a question. I am a MS student who graduates late May and would not have my diploma till then. I asked my lawyer about the advanced quota and they told me that I would be needing the letter of completion from the school (which is not possible until I finish with this semester).
What are the odds of the Master's Cap still staying open in and around end of Apr and First week if May.
Anyone has the latest count. Please post it.
Thanks
Sabhay
I have a question. I am a MS student who graduates late May and would not have my diploma till then. I asked my lawyer about the advanced quota and they told me that I would be needing the letter of completion from the school (which is not possible until I finish with this semester).
What are the odds of the Master's Cap still staying open in and around end of Apr and First week if May.
Anyone has the latest count. Please post it.
Thanks
Sabhay
frustratedH4
07-17 07:18 PM
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08-25 04:28 PM
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12-18 09:37 PM
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Redeye
07-10 10:54 PM
dude, you sound viscious. You missed his/her point.
His/her point is EB catergory does not depend on advanced education as claimed by your earlier post.
my reply was only meant to highlight what you have been doing on this thread. i do not care who is in which EB category. and i know exactly how people with masters degrees suffer in EB3. however, for you to argue that all category preference should just disappear, is quite ridiculous and i have explained the reasons to you. that does not mean people in EB3 are not suffering or that all those in EB3 are either holding advanced degrees or 3 year bachelor degrees. that stereotyping is in your head alone. certainly not in mine. you never answered any of my questions though. what would be the effect of YOUR solutions? would people like me EVER get a GC?
please do not unload your frustrations on all of us and derail what should be important.
iv has one goal- to end retrogression. period. iv's founder belonged to EB3. so do several core members. you have some funny perception that iv is about EB2. so be it. ironical though, because iv is commonly accused of being an entirely EB3 india organization.
so let me hear how the following things iv has constantly been fighting for, are somehow not helpful for EB3??
recapture GC
exempt families
remove country quotas
as for STEM exemption, if EB2 clears up, where do you think the GC numbers will go? what should we ask for? exemption for all??? not to mention that would get YOU a GC as quickly as possible and would LEAVE ME OUT. i still call and lobby for STEM exemption. i don't whine and moan on the forum about how it excludes health care professionals. if i have an issue, i work to resolve it- note the iv-physicians chapter in my signature that works to resolve specific issues. i created it and we have had success in reaching lawmakers with our problems.
anyway, iv is clearly not about a few leaders. the tone on the forums and the discussions are dictated by its members. iv has more EB3 members than any other category. so now ask yourself, WHY does the forum seem to discuss more EB2 issues (at least to you) ??? whose fault would that be if it were true? who needs to take responsibility to highlight their issues?
you have the option to change your job sir. if you are so frustrated, find a job that is up to your skill levels. you will not hear me on this forum complaining that EB1 should not get preference- hey i contribute as much or more. so why?
get with it. we fight the battles we think we can win. ANY GC numbers/exemptions will move everyone ahead in the line. what part of that do you not understand?
and now again. stop this divisive crap. we have more important issues to deal with.
His/her point is EB catergory does not depend on advanced education as claimed by your earlier post.
my reply was only meant to highlight what you have been doing on this thread. i do not care who is in which EB category. and i know exactly how people with masters degrees suffer in EB3. however, for you to argue that all category preference should just disappear, is quite ridiculous and i have explained the reasons to you. that does not mean people in EB3 are not suffering or that all those in EB3 are either holding advanced degrees or 3 year bachelor degrees. that stereotyping is in your head alone. certainly not in mine. you never answered any of my questions though. what would be the effect of YOUR solutions? would people like me EVER get a GC?
please do not unload your frustrations on all of us and derail what should be important.
iv has one goal- to end retrogression. period. iv's founder belonged to EB3. so do several core members. you have some funny perception that iv is about EB2. so be it. ironical though, because iv is commonly accused of being an entirely EB3 india organization.
so let me hear how the following things iv has constantly been fighting for, are somehow not helpful for EB3??
recapture GC
exempt families
remove country quotas
as for STEM exemption, if EB2 clears up, where do you think the GC numbers will go? what should we ask for? exemption for all??? not to mention that would get YOU a GC as quickly as possible and would LEAVE ME OUT. i still call and lobby for STEM exemption. i don't whine and moan on the forum about how it excludes health care professionals. if i have an issue, i work to resolve it- note the iv-physicians chapter in my signature that works to resolve specific issues. i created it and we have had success in reaching lawmakers with our problems.
anyway, iv is clearly not about a few leaders. the tone on the forums and the discussions are dictated by its members. iv has more EB3 members than any other category. so now ask yourself, WHY does the forum seem to discuss more EB2 issues (at least to you) ??? whose fault would that be if it were true? who needs to take responsibility to highlight their issues?
you have the option to change your job sir. if you are so frustrated, find a job that is up to your skill levels. you will not hear me on this forum complaining that EB1 should not get preference- hey i contribute as much or more. so why?
get with it. we fight the battles we think we can win. ANY GC numbers/exemptions will move everyone ahead in the line. what part of that do you not understand?
and now again. stop this divisive crap. we have more important issues to deal with.
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WAIT_FOR_EVER_GC
11-11 03:24 PM
Mr hpanday..
I understand your feelings and of the person who is going through this. But to all calm down and think. The parents have made a mistake.(My friend has such kind of nanny too who is here on a visitor visa but she is not like this and I do not blame these parents too for hiring one like this)
Some say they should go to the cops, use (U Visa) etc ..but when you go to the cops they will take her in and ask her information (SSN and stuff) and when they find that she is not legally eligible to work then what will the parents have to go through now.
The Social Services is different from immigration (True) but Social Services will take away the baby from the parents because they have committed a federal offence and they are not capable of taking care of the baby.
This is what happened with my cousin. My niece fell down from the stairs and was hurt real bad. When my cousin took her to the hospital the hospital authorities called social services saying that they are not taking care of the baby and are harming the child. The family doctor who was paged saved them by giving his gaurantee.
First it is a federal offence and irresposibility will cause them a price.
(To the parents: Sorry sir I do not mean to say that you are irresponsible but
this is what they might say)
Please take extra precaution when you are dealing with a minor.
I just wanted to share this with you and it is up to you to take the correct action you think
And as I said before knowing about child abuse and not notifying the cops is a bigger crime than hiring an illegal alien . In this case the child depends upon you for protection and you know about the abuse but you are considering whether to notify the cops or not !
This can come back on you itself in case someone else notifies the police ( your friend maybe ? ) The Department of Social Services is very strict in this country and I believe your child is a US citizen considering that he is only 8 months old ( most probably ).
How can you think of not getting justice for your child who cannot defend himself and not get justice himself. If he could speak believe me he would want to see the nanny in prison.
I understand your feelings and of the person who is going through this. But to all calm down and think. The parents have made a mistake.(My friend has such kind of nanny too who is here on a visitor visa but she is not like this and I do not blame these parents too for hiring one like this)
Some say they should go to the cops, use (U Visa) etc ..but when you go to the cops they will take her in and ask her information (SSN and stuff) and when they find that she is not legally eligible to work then what will the parents have to go through now.
The Social Services is different from immigration (True) but Social Services will take away the baby from the parents because they have committed a federal offence and they are not capable of taking care of the baby.
This is what happened with my cousin. My niece fell down from the stairs and was hurt real bad. When my cousin took her to the hospital the hospital authorities called social services saying that they are not taking care of the baby and are harming the child. The family doctor who was paged saved them by giving his gaurantee.
First it is a federal offence and irresposibility will cause them a price.
(To the parents: Sorry sir I do not mean to say that you are irresponsible but
this is what they might say)
Please take extra precaution when you are dealing with a minor.
I just wanted to share this with you and it is up to you to take the correct action you think
And as I said before knowing about child abuse and not notifying the cops is a bigger crime than hiring an illegal alien . In this case the child depends upon you for protection and you know about the abuse but you are considering whether to notify the cops or not !
This can come back on you itself in case someone else notifies the police ( your friend maybe ? ) The Department of Social Services is very strict in this country and I believe your child is a US citizen considering that he is only 8 months old ( most probably ).
How can you think of not getting justice for your child who cannot defend himself and not get justice himself. If he could speak believe me he would want to see the nanny in prison.
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ItIsNotFunny
11-12 06:17 PM
Happy ending. The End.
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StarSun
06-14 10:45 AM
To all IV non participating members (DC event),
The phenomenal experience of actually doing something positive to solve our problems is priceless. Every member that came to DC from all across America were dedicated and focused - many volunteered to help the IV Core (and in spite of doing many things ahead of time, there was much more things that needed attention!!).
On Monday and Tuesday, while I manned the phones, it was heartwarming to get calls from members who were in the Hill, calling and asking for more meetings - If they finished their meetings and had time before the next meeting, they called in to say - "is there a group we can join - so that we can be in a larger group?" or while they walked in the hallways, they would spot their congressman/congresswoman's office - and call in to ask if they could go in and just introduce themselves and ask for an audience. Mind you, this is not an easy task nor did they get to talk to staffers - but I am just acknowledging the great enthusiasm that was vibrating with our members - they realized the gravity of the situation, the opportunity that was within their grasp and wanted to make the best use of it. Hats off to you guys!!
IV realizes that our strength lies within our members and their dedication - both in terms of participation and funding. And if there is one thing that almost every single participant took home from the event is that - we still have a long way to go and we need far more support and participation.
Please contact me and I will put you in touch with the leaders from your state. I cannot stress enough on how important being involved in this process is............ The July fiasco has led many of our members to get their EADs and has lulled them into false security. If your goal is just EAD, please continue with what you are doing but if your goal is to get green card or citizenship - NOW has to be your wake up call.
The phenomenal experience of actually doing something positive to solve our problems is priceless. Every member that came to DC from all across America were dedicated and focused - many volunteered to help the IV Core (and in spite of doing many things ahead of time, there was much more things that needed attention!!).
On Monday and Tuesday, while I manned the phones, it was heartwarming to get calls from members who were in the Hill, calling and asking for more meetings - If they finished their meetings and had time before the next meeting, they called in to say - "is there a group we can join - so that we can be in a larger group?" or while they walked in the hallways, they would spot their congressman/congresswoman's office - and call in to ask if they could go in and just introduce themselves and ask for an audience. Mind you, this is not an easy task nor did they get to talk to staffers - but I am just acknowledging the great enthusiasm that was vibrating with our members - they realized the gravity of the situation, the opportunity that was within their grasp and wanted to make the best use of it. Hats off to you guys!!
IV realizes that our strength lies within our members and their dedication - both in terms of participation and funding. And if there is one thing that almost every single participant took home from the event is that - we still have a long way to go and we need far more support and participation.
Please contact me and I will put you in touch with the leaders from your state. I cannot stress enough on how important being involved in this process is............ The July fiasco has led many of our members to get their EADs and has lulled them into false security. If your goal is just EAD, please continue with what you are doing but if your goal is to get green card or citizenship - NOW has to be your wake up call.
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sandy_77
09-12 12:25 PM
I am of the same opinion. We must make presentations to the Foreign Affairs Dept, Justice Department, Presidential Nominees and the Current President and seek from other larger Indo-American, Indo-Chinese Organizations to highlight our suffering. It does not matter whether we are EB2 or EB3 from India or China. What matters is that this is great injustice. How many members of these departments would accept living like us in a country like USA? Are they ok with living in the uncertainty like we do? Will they accept being in the same pay bracket or at the same job level for 5 or more years and that too is not certain? Can they keep their life on hold particularly in the prime of their youth, the way we do? We must remind them how many documents and how many verifications we have to go through to get to the GC (right from F1 or H1 stage). On top of that when the depts life USCIS which are created to facilitate Immigration, turn their backs on us, what does the US Govt expect from us? What does the US Govt expect us to do when DOS second guesses everything that USCIS does and readjudicates and harasses visa applicants through the consulates (with unending and unaccounted for visa stamping delays)?
I have created a spreadsheet with visa bulletin data for the last one year. Anybody with some sense of justice and fairplay can easily look at the data and say that there is no order and no justice for our plight. I created trend charts for EB1, EB2, EB3 and ROW but these did not get uploaded properly. If somebody wishes to try again and recreate these and some how publish them, these charts could be used to communicate our plight in a very simple manner.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pBRG7hWbHtzBT6rfrI8DYFg
I think we should propose to the administration that in view of this unprecedented chaos in the USCIS, DOS, the Congress (on immigration issue) and by implication our lives, they must delink the GC process from being linked to an employer and to the level/skill level/pay scale the LCA is approved for. By linking the process to sponsoring employer they are promoting indentured labor and by forcing us to file new LCAs/ restart GC process for each promotion, they are just being anti-immigrant and anti-progress.
I have created a spreadsheet with visa bulletin data for the last one year. Anybody with some sense of justice and fairplay can easily look at the data and say that there is no order and no justice for our plight. I created trend charts for EB1, EB2, EB3 and ROW but these did not get uploaded properly. If somebody wishes to try again and recreate these and some how publish them, these charts could be used to communicate our plight in a very simple manner.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pBRG7hWbHtzBT6rfrI8DYFg
I think we should propose to the administration that in view of this unprecedented chaos in the USCIS, DOS, the Congress (on immigration issue) and by implication our lives, they must delink the GC process from being linked to an employer and to the level/skill level/pay scale the LCA is approved for. By linking the process to sponsoring employer they are promoting indentured labor and by forcing us to file new LCAs/ restart GC process for each promotion, they are just being anti-immigrant and anti-progress.
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06-07 02:06 PM
Thanks for the update Pappu. I am ashamed of missing this big and important event.
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english_august
07-05 09:55 PM
I am waiting for someone from IV core to endorse the idea.
Please contact IV core before you do these kind of campaigns.
I think that the IV core is aware of this campaign. They are not against it, as far as I understand, though obviously, there is no direct endorsement from them either.
I think this is a great idea to get media attention - something different and unique, and media always loves these things. The only thing that can doom it to failure is lack of enough numbers.
If we go and tell a journalist about this campaign, the first question we will be asked is, "how many flowers are you talking about?" and if our answer would 50 or 100, then the story dies right there. 250,000 affected skilled immigrants and only 100 of them are enthu enough to send flowers - well that's no story :rolleyes:.
So the only thing I can say is that at worst, this action will do you no harm and you will be out of 30-40 dollars. But at best, this can give us a media spotlight - and I think it is worth it.
Please contact IV core before you do these kind of campaigns.
I think that the IV core is aware of this campaign. They are not against it, as far as I understand, though obviously, there is no direct endorsement from them either.
I think this is a great idea to get media attention - something different and unique, and media always loves these things. The only thing that can doom it to failure is lack of enough numbers.
If we go and tell a journalist about this campaign, the first question we will be asked is, "how many flowers are you talking about?" and if our answer would 50 or 100, then the story dies right there. 250,000 affected skilled immigrants and only 100 of them are enthu enough to send flowers - well that's no story :rolleyes:.
So the only thing I can say is that at worst, this action will do you no harm and you will be out of 30-40 dollars. But at best, this can give us a media spotlight - and I think it is worth it.
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qasleuth
02-25 11:42 AM
Is IV only for those who have filed I485?
I gave my opinion and people gave me lot of reds. There is a majority here who already have EAD and have filed I485. You people do not care for those who are less fortunate and struggling in the early stages of the process. If July 07 had not happened, all of you would be asking for I485 filing option today.
By giving reds to people who disagree you will drive people away and make IV only for those who have filed I485 and not for the entire EB immigration people.
Firstly, why do you care about reputation on the forums (reds)?
Secondly, did you try the process described by NolaIndia?
Here is the process as described by NolaIndian:
"The person who came up with this idea needs to PM or e-mail Pappu or Administrator and get some feedback if IV Core supports this. If you get the yay from Pappu, then form a small core group who will tacke the operational aspect of this idea and keep it moving forward. The "posts" need to be coverted to "actions". I am just speaking from experience having run a successful year long campaign with IV already. Best of Luck! "
BTW: I did not give you any reds and I completely ignore the whole reputation/reds/greens business.
I gave my opinion and people gave me lot of reds. There is a majority here who already have EAD and have filed I485. You people do not care for those who are less fortunate and struggling in the early stages of the process. If July 07 had not happened, all of you would be asking for I485 filing option today.
By giving reds to people who disagree you will drive people away and make IV only for those who have filed I485 and not for the entire EB immigration people.
Firstly, why do you care about reputation on the forums (reds)?
Secondly, did you try the process described by NolaIndia?
Here is the process as described by NolaIndian:
"The person who came up with this idea needs to PM or e-mail Pappu or Administrator and get some feedback if IV Core supports this. If you get the yay from Pappu, then form a small core group who will tacke the operational aspect of this idea and keep it moving forward. The "posts" need to be coverted to "actions". I am just speaking from experience having run a successful year long campaign with IV already. Best of Luck! "
BTW: I did not give you any reds and I completely ignore the whole reputation/reds/greens business.
wandmaker
12-04 12:09 PM
It will take 10 years to see the light (GC) at the end of the tunnel, IV can help you get there faster. How faster you get there depends on your contribution?
gctest
09-16 10:06 AM
If I was to determine your employment category by looking at this post... it would be EB3.
You speak like a third class individual, must have travelled in third class compartment all your life, and now you are in third preference category..... Honestly i don't envy you.
Moderators please do not respond to such people. I am happy you closed the thread.
If he wants to use his freedom in the free country, he is free to poop in the lobby of his employer's office in front of everyone, center of the local mall and enjoy his freedom in the free country.
We should not allow such selfish people who want to divide the community
You speak like a third class individual, must have travelled in third class compartment all your life, and now you are in third preference category..... Honestly i don't envy you.
Moderators please do not respond to such people. I am happy you closed the thread.
If he wants to use his freedom in the free country, he is free to poop in the lobby of his employer's office in front of everyone, center of the local mall and enjoy his freedom in the free country.
We should not allow such selfish people who want to divide the community
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