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07-11 12:21 PM
"Dear XXX: We were informed yesterday afternoon, during our teleconference with AILA, that it was confirmed by the Immigration Service that they are not rejecting/returning any cases received by Monday July 2, 2007. Your application was included in the early Monday delivery of packets marked for Saturday delivery so it will be retained by the Immigration Service while they make a decision on whether or not to reverse themselves on the filing deadline.
I will keep you posted as to any new developments on your case. You will also be receiving our Breaking News online notices advising you of any new changes. If you are not already receiving our newsletter, please let me know I will ask our secretary to add you to our e-mail list."
I will keep you posted as to any new developments on your case. You will also be receiving our Breaking News online notices advising you of any new changes. If you are not already receiving our newsletter, please let me know I will ask our secretary to add you to our e-mail list."
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english_august
07-12 11:10 AM
It would have been great if everyone could have a similar white t-shirt with a slogan on front that said
"Ask me about legal immigrants"
and on the back
"www.immigrationvoice.org"
Obviously this is not possible at this stage. How about everyone at least pinning something similar that is printed on a paper on their shirts? Similar to how runners do (http://z.about.com/d/studenttravel/1/0/s/H/ujena-marathon-solo-2.jpg)
It will help the organizers and any media persons in identifying the rally participants easily.
"Ask me about legal immigrants"
and on the back
"www.immigrationvoice.org"
Obviously this is not possible at this stage. How about everyone at least pinning something similar that is printed on a paper on their shirts? Similar to how runners do (http://z.about.com/d/studenttravel/1/0/s/H/ujena-marathon-solo-2.jpg)
It will help the organizers and any media persons in identifying the rally participants easily.
hpandey
06-13 12:59 PM
Pappu,
Thanks for the post and your time!
1. "PLEASE Put your real dates in your profile" There is no provision to put dates for CP filers!! All the dates are for 485 filers.
Though it is proven time and again that CP filers are the least needed people on this forum (next to EB3 I - going by this thread), it is unfair not reserving few columns on the profile for CP filers ... It doesn't cost VISA numbers for that...
2. I have told this before but would like to repeat now... I don't contribute because there is nothing for CP filers here. VISA recapturing is the only effort that would benefit CP filers but anyway the chances of that bill passing is close to 0.
In my opinion, the biggest sufferers are people in EB3 India or China and who have opted for CP (now guys, don't start lecturing on CP vs. 485. We have heard it enough).
Hi Will Win
We all are immigrants in some way or the other standing in some line or the other. We need to be together . What IV is trying is to fix the system. If something somewhere gets fixed it surely benefits the immigrants and brings hope for other things that need to be fixed. Don't you think if the EB system here was fixed, IV would have been able to focus on CP ?
We all need to stick together to help each other.
Thanks
Thanks for the post and your time!
1. "PLEASE Put your real dates in your profile" There is no provision to put dates for CP filers!! All the dates are for 485 filers.
Though it is proven time and again that CP filers are the least needed people on this forum (next to EB3 I - going by this thread), it is unfair not reserving few columns on the profile for CP filers ... It doesn't cost VISA numbers for that...
2. I have told this before but would like to repeat now... I don't contribute because there is nothing for CP filers here. VISA recapturing is the only effort that would benefit CP filers but anyway the chances of that bill passing is close to 0.
In my opinion, the biggest sufferers are people in EB3 India or China and who have opted for CP (now guys, don't start lecturing on CP vs. 485. We have heard it enough).
Hi Will Win
We all are immigrants in some way or the other standing in some line or the other. We need to be together . What IV is trying is to fix the system. If something somewhere gets fixed it surely benefits the immigrants and brings hope for other things that need to be fixed. Don't you think if the EB system here was fixed, IV would have been able to focus on CP ?
We all need to stick together to help each other.
Thanks
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amitga
02-06 02:05 PM
I know there was a long discussion about this a while ago. My PD is in 2005 in EB2 category.
Any guesses as to how long it will take without any reform? Is there a good guess on the total number of pending LCs in the queue? I would like to take that number and divide by 1400 (2800 for EB2/2).
My guess is that with curret rate it will take anywhere from 10-15 years for EB2 to reach 2005.
Any guesses as to how long it will take without any reform? Is there a good guess on the total number of pending LCs in the queue? I would like to take that number and divide by 1400 (2800 for EB2/2).
My guess is that with curret rate it will take anywhere from 10-15 years for EB2 to reach 2005.
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Humhongekamyab
07-02 03:08 PM
I am not discouraging pople but aasking them to stand up. Only trying to gauge the leveel att which companies are affected.
I don't think DOL is very efficient in updating their list. Here is what I found through a google search http://www.usdoj.gov/eoir/vll/intdec/vol24/3580.pdf
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txs/releases/February%202007/070214-Huang.htm
http://bibdaily.com/pdfs/Pegasus%203-31-08.pdf
I think out of these three only one is mentioned in the list.
Edit: Another one not in the list http://www.oalj.dol.gov/PUBLIC/INA/DECISIONS/ALJ_DECISIONS/LCA/03LCA14A.HTM
http://www.oalj.dol.gov/PUBLIC/INA/DECISIONS/ALJ_DECISIONS/LCA/03LCA10A.HTM
Sorry the list is endless:
http://www.visaportal.com/page.asp?page_id=175
I don't think DOL is very efficient in updating their list. Here is what I found through a google search http://www.usdoj.gov/eoir/vll/intdec/vol24/3580.pdf
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txs/releases/February%202007/070214-Huang.htm
http://bibdaily.com/pdfs/Pegasus%203-31-08.pdf
I think out of these three only one is mentioned in the list.
Edit: Another one not in the list http://www.oalj.dol.gov/PUBLIC/INA/DECISIONS/ALJ_DECISIONS/LCA/03LCA14A.HTM
http://www.oalj.dol.gov/PUBLIC/INA/DECISIONS/ALJ_DECISIONS/LCA/03LCA10A.HTM
Sorry the list is endless:
http://www.visaportal.com/page.asp?page_id=175
rri195
07-18 03:24 PM
that's delivered date
It seems few applicants who mailed on 6/29 or 6/30 did got RD of 7/2
http://www..com/usa-immigration-trackers/i485-tracker1/
just wondering how ???
It seems few applicants who mailed on 6/29 or 6/30 did got RD of 7/2
http://www..com/usa-immigration-trackers/i485-tracker1/
just wondering how ???
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ras
07-02 12:53 AM
following few more reasons may be added.
- When a new employee arrives his/her knowledge of immigration matters is quite less and doesn't intend to take risks of going against the employers wishes. This is being exploited by many employers by way of threatening to cancel H1, intimidating that they will have to return back, instilling fear in all ways and means in the employees about the negative aspects. This leads the employee to think and step back in going against the employer.
Soln : Better educate the new employee about his rights as soon as he arrives. This could be either through forums, websites or even an official supplement from USCIS which should be handed over to the employee when his H1 is approved. ( It could mention and clear all myths officially by USCIS). This instills courage in the employee to question the employer if not go ahead with law suits. Also, this even may reduce threatening by the employer.
- Further most of the employees want their career slate to be clean without any law suit, dots, etc until their life is secured by way of GC approvals or some form of assurance from the Govt. This makes them step back on taking action against the employer.
Soln: Well if there could be a system where anonymous complaints/whistle blowers are allowed, they probably may come out. However, rarely employee wants to reveal his identity though he suffers.
- The immigration matters are so complicated with so many RFE's people are scared to add another their event to their history. Any transaction with USCIS is kind of a risky feel for the employee.
Soln: This feeling should be removed.
- immigration decisions are uncertain so people want to be cautious in taking bold steps.
Soln : There should be assurance from USCIS that provided everything on the candidates side is good that his GC will be approved. If an employee believes that based on his/her good credentials in all respects they should assured be of a GC, they may come forward to fight against the erring employers
Soln: How do we make employee believe if everything is right on their part, an appropriate decision will be taken by USCIS. People still dont have confidence in USCIS decision making process.
- And for GC applicants, they fear anything against the employer would affect their GC process. At every stage (Labor, I 140 and I 485 ) they are being exploited in one or the other way. Always it the employee who is at the loosing end. I have never seen an empoyer loosing because of an employee...
These are some of the thoughts...
- When a new employee arrives his/her knowledge of immigration matters is quite less and doesn't intend to take risks of going against the employers wishes. This is being exploited by many employers by way of threatening to cancel H1, intimidating that they will have to return back, instilling fear in all ways and means in the employees about the negative aspects. This leads the employee to think and step back in going against the employer.
Soln : Better educate the new employee about his rights as soon as he arrives. This could be either through forums, websites or even an official supplement from USCIS which should be handed over to the employee when his H1 is approved. ( It could mention and clear all myths officially by USCIS). This instills courage in the employee to question the employer if not go ahead with law suits. Also, this even may reduce threatening by the employer.
- Further most of the employees want their career slate to be clean without any law suit, dots, etc until their life is secured by way of GC approvals or some form of assurance from the Govt. This makes them step back on taking action against the employer.
Soln: Well if there could be a system where anonymous complaints/whistle blowers are allowed, they probably may come out. However, rarely employee wants to reveal his identity though he suffers.
- The immigration matters are so complicated with so many RFE's people are scared to add another their event to their history. Any transaction with USCIS is kind of a risky feel for the employee.
Soln: This feeling should be removed.
- immigration decisions are uncertain so people want to be cautious in taking bold steps.
Soln : There should be assurance from USCIS that provided everything on the candidates side is good that his GC will be approved. If an employee believes that based on his/her good credentials in all respects they should assured be of a GC, they may come forward to fight against the erring employers
Soln: How do we make employee believe if everything is right on their part, an appropriate decision will be taken by USCIS. People still dont have confidence in USCIS decision making process.
- And for GC applicants, they fear anything against the employer would affect their GC process. At every stage (Labor, I 140 and I 485 ) they are being exploited in one or the other way. Always it the employee who is at the loosing end. I have never seen an empoyer loosing because of an employee...
These are some of the thoughts...
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wawa
10-02 12:41 PM
Hi smartboy75/prince7,
Any updates?
I checked my former approved H1Bs and found:
1) The Sept. 2000 approved H1B with LUD of June 2007
2) The Feb.2003 approved H1B with LUD 0f April 2006
For both cases, it seems the status is the same as when it was approved in Sept. 2000 and Feb. 2003, nothing new. Maybe these are automatic updates by the computer system.
Any updates?
I checked my former approved H1Bs and found:
1) The Sept. 2000 approved H1B with LUD of June 2007
2) The Feb.2003 approved H1B with LUD 0f April 2006
For both cases, it seems the status is the same as when it was approved in Sept. 2000 and Feb. 2003, nothing new. Maybe these are automatic updates by the computer system.
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dixie
02-07 02:37 PM
Unfortunately, country of birth for PD determination is one thing that cannot change. It is ridiculous that a country like the US that promotes itself as a meritocracy and a country of second chances ties the fate of EB applicants to such an immutable parameter.
I understand that your priority date is based on country of birth. I have read that you can use your spouse's country of birth. What if you have nationality in a country for over 20yrs but born in India. My parents emigrated to Europe when I was three months old, and I was naturalised there. The spouse rule doesn't apply to me because my wife is born in India too. Is there a rule anywhere that makes you eligibile to file under a particular quota if you had nationality in that country for a VERY long time? I was told no, so throwing this out to the group for advice. No hopes that I will hear otherwise.
Thanks to all.
I understand that your priority date is based on country of birth. I have read that you can use your spouse's country of birth. What if you have nationality in a country for over 20yrs but born in India. My parents emigrated to Europe when I was three months old, and I was naturalised there. The spouse rule doesn't apply to me because my wife is born in India too. Is there a rule anywhere that makes you eligibile to file under a particular quota if you had nationality in that country for a VERY long time? I was told no, so throwing this out to the group for advice. No hopes that I will hear otherwise.
Thanks to all.
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polapragada
04-26 06:34 PM
I like majority of others who came here on H1 with genunine intent of settling down should work toward common goal of easier GC processing and not support outsourcing idiots esp L1s who is nothing but shipping jobs overseas and making a field (eg IT) minimum wage pay. Just look around how much TCS pay .
COmmon goal of us is easier and humane green card processing and to work towards the goal to stop blatant abuses in the form of L1 (and some H1 )
Watch your language.. My friend.. don't throw your rotten ideas as facts
TCS for deputed employees
1. 60.5 K -70 K
2. Full medical insurance (whole family) from Cigna...
3. 401K 4%
4. All travel and relation expenses
5. So many...
--> better than most desi employers
If you think that there is abuse in L1 so in H1
Becasue of so people like you anti-I could able to successfully devide us.
If you think that out sourcing and sending jobs to India is utterly wrong.. so giving jobs to foreigners in US.
You and me are here because of globalization, if we want to get PROTECTed from MORE globalization.. for sure every body will suffer, Indians (in India),L1,H1, You, me, Even Citizens.
And if you are an Indian and going to loose job in USA because of the ptotectionizam you will end begging a job from the same Indian outsourcing companies. Watch out..
COmmon goal of us is easier and humane green card processing and to work towards the goal to stop blatant abuses in the form of L1 (and some H1 )
Watch your language.. My friend.. don't throw your rotten ideas as facts
TCS for deputed employees
1. 60.5 K -70 K
2. Full medical insurance (whole family) from Cigna...
3. 401K 4%
4. All travel and relation expenses
5. So many...
--> better than most desi employers
If you think that there is abuse in L1 so in H1
Becasue of so people like you anti-I could able to successfully devide us.
If you think that out sourcing and sending jobs to India is utterly wrong.. so giving jobs to foreigners in US.
You and me are here because of globalization, if we want to get PROTECTed from MORE globalization.. for sure every body will suffer, Indians (in India),L1,H1, You, me, Even Citizens.
And if you are an Indian and going to loose job in USA because of the ptotectionizam you will end begging a job from the same Indian outsourcing companies. Watch out..
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Rajeev
01-31 02:16 PM
Bump
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laborchic
12-26 03:06 PM
Great stuff folks..
I convinced more people from my office to send a message on change.gov. Even US citizens who respect your work could send a message to the transition team saying that they are for the legal and highly skilled immigrants...
Getting recommendations from your bosses, managers and co-workers may also be helpful. Its very unusual for the USCIS/Immigration dept people to hear good things about the immigrants from US Citizens.
These days lots of people are talking about the transition at work and they know about change.gov website. If you know good friends who can write for you then that could be of great help.
I have a feeling that some good news is coming up in the pipeline. Was reading about Janet Naplolitano and Silos in today's NY times editorial.
Lets give it a best shot here guys..:)
I convinced more people from my office to send a message on change.gov. Even US citizens who respect your work could send a message to the transition team saying that they are for the legal and highly skilled immigrants...
Getting recommendations from your bosses, managers and co-workers may also be helpful. Its very unusual for the USCIS/Immigration dept people to hear good things about the immigrants from US Citizens.
These days lots of people are talking about the transition at work and they know about change.gov website. If you know good friends who can write for you then that could be of great help.
I have a feeling that some good news is coming up in the pipeline. Was reading about Janet Naplolitano and Silos in today's NY times editorial.
Lets give it a best shot here guys..:)
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SGP
04-10 06:16 AM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$GOOD MORNING GC$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Deadline = April 30th, 2011
Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
2)Email ivcoordinator@gmail.com with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")
Pappu : Does this thread yet needs to be bumped up?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$GOOD EVENING GC$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Deadline = April 30th, 2011
Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
2)Email ivcoordinator@gmail.com with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")
Deadline = April 30th, 2011
Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
2)Email ivcoordinator@gmail.com with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")
Pappu : Does this thread yet needs to be bumped up?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$GOOD EVENING GC$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Deadline = April 30th, 2011
Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
2)Email ivcoordinator@gmail.com with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")
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anzerraja
07-20 09:33 AM
There is a funding drive in this other thread towards reimbursing the administrative costs of IV.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=10708
Could you please pledge an amount ?
it need not just a few very good core team members,
what is needed is a weight of slightly good, active and contributing, masses.
It is bad to rely on a few doing a lot, more need to do just a little more.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=10708
Could you please pledge an amount ?
it need not just a few very good core team members,
what is needed is a weight of slightly good, active and contributing, masses.
It is bad to rely on a few doing a lot, more need to do just a little more.
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scorpion00
07-01 10:05 PM
I would like to share my experience and it may help some people here.
My H1 was sponsored by company A when I was working with them on OPT. I paid $3000 for H1 filing and attorney fees and company A gave me the H1 approval notice only after I signed an agreement that I would work for atleast one year with them.
Afetr 1 month of my H1 approval, I got a better job offer from company B and I got the H1 transferred. I notified my client and company A who threatened to revoke my H1, take me to court etc etc. They also withheld 4 weeks of my pay.
After joining company B, I filed a complaint against company A with DOL that they withheld my salary and also they demanded H1 fees from me. After 2 weeks of that complaint, my salary was deposited into my account and DOL was looking into my complaint about H1 fees. This case finally got resolved last week after about 18 months, when DOL finally persuaded company A to pay $3000 back to me.
I would request everyone who is a victim of these blood sucking employers to
take every possible action against them. There's a very little chance that they would go to court because they are themselves involved in gross irregularities.
My H1 was sponsored by company A when I was working with them on OPT. I paid $3000 for H1 filing and attorney fees and company A gave me the H1 approval notice only after I signed an agreement that I would work for atleast one year with them.
Afetr 1 month of my H1 approval, I got a better job offer from company B and I got the H1 transferred. I notified my client and company A who threatened to revoke my H1, take me to court etc etc. They also withheld 4 weeks of my pay.
After joining company B, I filed a complaint against company A with DOL that they withheld my salary and also they demanded H1 fees from me. After 2 weeks of that complaint, my salary was deposited into my account and DOL was looking into my complaint about H1 fees. This case finally got resolved last week after about 18 months, when DOL finally persuaded company A to pay $3000 back to me.
I would request everyone who is a victim of these blood sucking employers to
take every possible action against them. There's a very little chance that they would go to court because they are themselves involved in gross irregularities.
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belmontboy
04-18 06:51 PM
Can someone work for company A (with green card pending for 8 years) and start green card process thru other company to port to EB2(part time employment). Can they do that. I mean basically working for two companies until you get your green card, then quit company B and continue working for company A. Did anyone do this? Is this a possible scenario?
Quitting company B right after getting GC would be fraud/misrepresentation.
After getting GC through B, he/she needs to work for B (usually 6 months or so...)
Quitting company B right after getting GC would be fraud/misrepresentation.
After getting GC through B, he/she needs to work for B (usually 6 months or so...)
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arnab221
11-06 02:04 PM
Actually, not all he said was wrong.
We should not support what these IT consulting companies are doing with H1B programme just because we are on H1. These big companies are hoarding H1B visas so they can have an upperhand when dealing with the employees.
My own employer was trying to get as many H1s as possible without having ANY work for them. They sent us all a few emails asking us if we had any family or friends back home who want to come to US on H1. These guys make the H1 applicants pay for the application expenses, then just keep them there or get them here and keep them on bench and almost everybody here is familiar with what happens next.
Think from an American's point of view.. It is THEIR country, THEY make the laws that benefit their society and economy.. they have all the right to stand up against these practices by foreign based companies..
I like his statement "H1B is supposed to be used when there IS a job but no American to do it" What these Consulting companies have turned it into is "There is a person on H1B avaliable If and when there is a job to do" OR worse "There is an H1B holder available, on bench, but no job to do"
I totally support reform in the H1 process with a target to reduce fraud. That will ultimately benefit people like us who will come here on H1B in future.
Please don't fire me for taking his side, I'm not. I'm in favour of market deciding what it needs, but I'm 100% against fraud, and all of know these so called consulting companies ARE indulging in fraud..
Cannot agree more on the fraud prevention . Increasing the H1B application fees is not way of preventing fraud .This is punishing the small innovative companies from catching up and importing much needed talent .Keep the same fees , catch the fraudsters and make an example of them to others .
We should not support what these IT consulting companies are doing with H1B programme just because we are on H1. These big companies are hoarding H1B visas so they can have an upperhand when dealing with the employees.
My own employer was trying to get as many H1s as possible without having ANY work for them. They sent us all a few emails asking us if we had any family or friends back home who want to come to US on H1. These guys make the H1 applicants pay for the application expenses, then just keep them there or get them here and keep them on bench and almost everybody here is familiar with what happens next.
Think from an American's point of view.. It is THEIR country, THEY make the laws that benefit their society and economy.. they have all the right to stand up against these practices by foreign based companies..
I like his statement "H1B is supposed to be used when there IS a job but no American to do it" What these Consulting companies have turned it into is "There is a person on H1B avaliable If and when there is a job to do" OR worse "There is an H1B holder available, on bench, but no job to do"
I totally support reform in the H1 process with a target to reduce fraud. That will ultimately benefit people like us who will come here on H1B in future.
Please don't fire me for taking his side, I'm not. I'm in favour of market deciding what it needs, but I'm 100% against fraud, and all of know these so called consulting companies ARE indulging in fraud..
Cannot agree more on the fraud prevention . Increasing the H1B application fees is not way of preventing fraud .This is punishing the small innovative companies from catching up and importing much needed talent .Keep the same fees , catch the fraudsters and make an example of them to others .
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eager_immi
02-13 02:30 PM
Logiclife. I know why you are responding to these comments you all are frustrated with such comments. I know it is hard to not respond but please ignore these asinine comments. Please have some of these comments linked to the main page. But believe me "barking dogs seldom bite." Such people will ultimately sap your energy. But, just like how IV is asking people to contribute please also ask them to use their own judgment, they do this at their own risk. There are many people like us who have faith in your group although we know you cannot do miracles. Please have faith and I sincerely request to all members & moderator that once we see these comments let us move this to the some thread called �IV bashing thread� and let the rest of us completely ignore them.
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sanju
09-25 09:40 AM
Just curious. Why do you claim ROW is receiving preferential treatment over India when all the countries get the same upper limit of the visas. Now if the Indians ask for more visas just because there are more Indians asking for green cards, wouldn't that be preferential treatment? :)
Why do think that "India" is the name of 1 human being that everyone from India should be treat like 1 person. Each person applies for his/her I-485, even each member of a family is considered separate. So why club one group of people based on a dichotomy that works best in your favor and then argue that there should be no change. Why not apply color of skin to decide the limits, or maybe the language. Because frankly, which country I come from has nothing to do with why I am here, just as the color of my skin or my native language has no relevance to my petition. In any system if you club large group of applicants based on a dichotomy, and say you will get lesser share than the rest, isn't that how you describe preferential treatment ? Is there any other way to describe the current country-quota system? Why not say Tamil SriLankans will autonomously govern 86% of the land and rest of people in Sri Lanka should migrate to the remaining 14%. Is that how it works there? Probably not, then why argue for something which is actually nothing but preferential treatment. That's ok, in olden days, when racial discrimination was legal, people who benefited from it argued in favor of it, just as you are doing in favor of per-country limits. But the society is much better without racial discrimination. Don't you think so? Any special benefits accorded to one set of group over the other is preferential treatment. There is no other way to describe it. Now, if you got a job, which is why you are here, based on the fact that you are from Sri Lanka, then it is a different thing, then you must get green card based on which country you came from. But it would be illegal if actually you got got your job because you are from Sri-Lanka. Then why apply the benefit which is a direct derivative of your employment (and hence employment based green card) based on which country you came from? Is there any relation between your job and your country of origin? If yes, then it is illegal, if no, then why give benefit of your employment based on your country of origin, if no, and you continue to want the benefit of your employment based on your country of origin, wouldn't that be asking for preferential treatment? How else will you chose to describe it? Please help me to understand this.
And here is what I wrote earlier, which you did not want to read because you probably have not answer for this question to help your argument, so very conveniently you just had to skip it entirely. Here is goes ....
I thought we are all equals, unless you think you are challenged in anyways - physically or otherwise, in that case I agree, you are 100% right, there must be a special quota for you. For all others who consider themselves to be equal shareholders to the free society, isn't preferential treatment for any set of people "wrong" and "unfair"? Just asking? I mean are we not equals, if yes, then there should be no quota for any country, if no and you think you are superior, which maybe true, then I should get preferential treatment, if no, and you think you are inferior or otherwise challenged in anyways, well, in that case yes, you sure should be treat better than others.... you know....
So what do you think you are - equal? inferior? or superior? I mean it has go to be one of those, right?
Now if the Indians ask for more visas just because there are more Indians asking for green cards, wouldn't that be preferential treatment?
NO. That would not be preferential treatment. Because as I said, India is not 1 human being who ought to consume the same oxygen as 1 human being namely Sri Lanka must consume. Each applicant in employment based green card is a separate human being. Hope you are not proposing to ration oxygen based on country quota.
Look, I know removal of per-country quota may not work in your favor so you do not want to remove it. Tell me that it is not true and this discussion is over. And if per-country quota puts me at any dis-advantage as compared to you, isn't system giving you preferential treatment over me? How else will you describe it?
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Why do think that "India" is the name of 1 human being that everyone from India should be treat like 1 person. Each person applies for his/her I-485, even each member of a family is considered separate. So why club one group of people based on a dichotomy that works best in your favor and then argue that there should be no change. Why not apply color of skin to decide the limits, or maybe the language. Because frankly, which country I come from has nothing to do with why I am here, just as the color of my skin or my native language has no relevance to my petition. In any system if you club large group of applicants based on a dichotomy, and say you will get lesser share than the rest, isn't that how you describe preferential treatment ? Is there any other way to describe the current country-quota system? Why not say Tamil SriLankans will autonomously govern 86% of the land and rest of people in Sri Lanka should migrate to the remaining 14%. Is that how it works there? Probably not, then why argue for something which is actually nothing but preferential treatment. That's ok, in olden days, when racial discrimination was legal, people who benefited from it argued in favor of it, just as you are doing in favor of per-country limits. But the society is much better without racial discrimination. Don't you think so? Any special benefits accorded to one set of group over the other is preferential treatment. There is no other way to describe it. Now, if you got a job, which is why you are here, based on the fact that you are from Sri Lanka, then it is a different thing, then you must get green card based on which country you came from. But it would be illegal if actually you got got your job because you are from Sri-Lanka. Then why apply the benefit which is a direct derivative of your employment (and hence employment based green card) based on which country you came from? Is there any relation between your job and your country of origin? If yes, then it is illegal, if no, then why give benefit of your employment based on your country of origin, if no, and you continue to want the benefit of your employment based on your country of origin, wouldn't that be asking for preferential treatment? How else will you chose to describe it? Please help me to understand this.
And here is what I wrote earlier, which you did not want to read because you probably have not answer for this question to help your argument, so very conveniently you just had to skip it entirely. Here is goes ....
I thought we are all equals, unless you think you are challenged in anyways - physically or otherwise, in that case I agree, you are 100% right, there must be a special quota for you. For all others who consider themselves to be equal shareholders to the free society, isn't preferential treatment for any set of people "wrong" and "unfair"? Just asking? I mean are we not equals, if yes, then there should be no quota for any country, if no and you think you are superior, which maybe true, then I should get preferential treatment, if no, and you think you are inferior or otherwise challenged in anyways, well, in that case yes, you sure should be treat better than others.... you know....
So what do you think you are - equal? inferior? or superior? I mean it has go to be one of those, right?
Now if the Indians ask for more visas just because there are more Indians asking for green cards, wouldn't that be preferential treatment?
NO. That would not be preferential treatment. Because as I said, India is not 1 human being who ought to consume the same oxygen as 1 human being namely Sri Lanka must consume. Each applicant in employment based green card is a separate human being. Hope you are not proposing to ration oxygen based on country quota.
Look, I know removal of per-country quota may not work in your favor so you do not want to remove it. Tell me that it is not true and this discussion is over. And if per-country quota puts me at any dis-advantage as compared to you, isn't system giving you preferential treatment over me? How else will you describe it?
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sanan
06-14 01:04 PM
Long as you are married before your 485 is approved you should be ok. What is your PD and category?
One hint they give you is when they send the fingerprinting (FP) notice. You can't be approved without that. And after FP it takes any where from 3 - 6 months.
I am getting married in Jan 2008. can i go ahead and apply now? How to include the wife? will that be a problem.
One hint they give you is when they send the fingerprinting (FP) notice. You can't be approved without that. And after FP it takes any where from 3 - 6 months.
I am getting married in Jan 2008. can i go ahead and apply now? How to include the wife? will that be a problem.
hebbar77
03-26 04:19 PM
My guess:
They are just "touch *" in the directory containing 485 files. I stopped monitoring the STATUS of my 485 and got onto something fun!
They are just "touch *" in the directory containing 485 files. I stopped monitoring the STATUS of my 485 and got onto something fun!
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