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Ramba
10-07 03:26 PM
True, but you are forgetting the basic definition of demand. Demand is willingness to buy supported by ability to buy. If you are from any metros in India, think how many of your Non-IT, mainstream friends draw more than Rs. 50,000 per month? How can someone making even Rs. 50,000 a month afford 50 Lakh flat?
If there are 10 people drooling out side Ferrari showroom that does not mean there is demand for 10 Ferrari :)
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ArkBird
I understand. Even for NRI it is difficut to afford now. The issue is the numbers. How many H1b and L1s come to US from 1990 t0 2008. Very very conservative estimation wil be atleast 2 million. This estimation ignores other NRIs in other country. Apart from this there are many resident IT folks makes 6 digit salary plays the role. If most of them tries to buy, we need to find another India. Indian real estates become a NRI colony,
If there are 10 people drooling out side Ferrari showroom that does not mean there is demand for 10 Ferrari :)
Cheers
ArkBird
I understand. Even for NRI it is difficut to afford now. The issue is the numbers. How many H1b and L1s come to US from 1990 t0 2008. Very very conservative estimation wil be atleast 2 million. This estimation ignores other NRIs in other country. Apart from this there are many resident IT folks makes 6 digit salary plays the role. If most of them tries to buy, we need to find another India. Indian real estates become a NRI colony,
Carlau
02-05 04:44 PM
eb3_nepa's request is valid in the context that spouse of an L1 can take up any Job.. & the spouse of the proposed 'Blue Card" can take up any job.. why not a H4?
I cannot agree with you more.
On the other hand for those ones that say that we (H-4s) could apply for H-1B easily, it is not easy if you are not in IT. Some people said -although doesn't make much sense looking that L-1 and Blue card spouses would be able to work-, that if you do not want the H-4s to compete with average joes?, then an intermediate solution is to require a Bachellor degree minimum education requirement for getting the H-4s a H-4B (my new name for employment authorization), yes, dependend on the H-1B, if the H-1B is laid off the H-4 would still have the chance to apply for H-1B (without counting in the yearly quota) or leave the country after 6 months. Why should we get a F-1 visa?, most of us arrived highly educated.
Most people do not seem to understand that the spouses of L-1s (legal) can work, and the spouses of Blue card holders (Agjobs) would be able to work, so leaving the H-4s out is DISCRIMINATION!
I cannot agree with you more.
On the other hand for those ones that say that we (H-4s) could apply for H-1B easily, it is not easy if you are not in IT. Some people said -although doesn't make much sense looking that L-1 and Blue card spouses would be able to work-, that if you do not want the H-4s to compete with average joes?, then an intermediate solution is to require a Bachellor degree minimum education requirement for getting the H-4s a H-4B (my new name for employment authorization), yes, dependend on the H-1B, if the H-1B is laid off the H-4 would still have the chance to apply for H-1B (without counting in the yearly quota) or leave the country after 6 months. Why should we get a F-1 visa?, most of us arrived highly educated.
Most people do not seem to understand that the spouses of L-1s (legal) can work, and the spouses of Blue card holders (Agjobs) would be able to work, so leaving the H-4s out is DISCRIMINATION!
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485Mbe4001
08-13 01:47 PM
I agree, there is slim chance that 5882 could pass, we must do our best and not let it slip out of our hands. Keep writing and calling. At this rate EB 3 I will not move more than a couple of months per year. The new visa allocation policy will retrogress EB3 ROW too and as EB3 ROW starts getting retrogressed there will be less and less available for EB3 I.
If you can porting to EB2 is always a better choice.
For EB3-I's with PD > 2005 it is worth the risk even with the gray area that USCIS may not accept the porting. An EB2 I PD of 2008/9 will always be better than EB3 I PD > 2005.
HR 5882 is the only solution for all atleast for this year.
If you can porting to EB2 is always a better choice.
For EB3-I's with PD > 2005 it is worth the risk even with the gray area that USCIS may not accept the porting. An EB2 I PD of 2008/9 will always be better than EB3 I PD > 2005.
HR 5882 is the only solution for all atleast for this year.
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WaitingUnlimited
05-12 04:57 PM
First of all...Welcome to Immigration Voice.
Nitin, how do you think that people who are here in this forum does not know about the other options available? Where in this world you get as many opportunities as you get in USA? Where can you get the flexible life like here?
How many IT jobs are there in Canada (assuming most of the members in IV are into IT)? Canada Alberta program increased processing times to 8 months now and it excludes federal processing times. Federal application method takes more than one and half years.
So its good that you have chosen an alternative and worked out well, but your alternative many not be an alternative or not even option to all!!!
Nitin, how do you think that people who are here in this forum does not know about the other options available? Where in this world you get as many opportunities as you get in USA? Where can you get the flexible life like here?
How many IT jobs are there in Canada (assuming most of the members in IV are into IT)? Canada Alberta program increased processing times to 8 months now and it excludes federal processing times. Federal application method takes more than one and half years.
So its good that you have chosen an alternative and worked out well, but your alternative many not be an alternative or not even option to all!!!
nitinboston
05-12 05:16 PM
Folks don't get me wrong, i understand what you guys are going through. my family and close friends are in same limbo. and if any of you has spouse on H4 you will surely know the wonderful status it is to be in. All i am saying is, if there is too much demand for something, there will be a price attached to it. A British can get US gc faster then a Indian cause there are not that many british who wanna come here. and Since USCIS knows we are almost on our knees, they treat us like dirt. Once the demand goes down and more and more Indians will start to look else where, they will start treating us with respect too. Case in pint china, track its history with USCIS, Chinese no longer flock to US, in fact its US who now depends on Chinese money and all and treats its citizens with respect.
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Nagireddi
07-14 11:20 PM
I have just signed the petition. Please all IV members do sign this and let them know our unhappiness over this false propaganda.Thank you guys.
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caliguy
09-17 01:24 PM
kubmilegaGC - Heartiest congratulations! Go out and enjoy the freedom!!! You deserve it.
I CAN NOT BELIEVE THIS...this morning 10:00AM CST we got the CPO emails for both of us...
I just can not thank Aall of you enough and the IV community for the support they have provided over the last few years - especially since Sept 1.
THANK YOU GOD - THANKS FOR LISTENING.
I will be around - not going anywhere and will support IV efforts!
BEST OF LUCK FOR THOSE WHO ARE WAITING...Believe me "appka bhi number aayega" I was loosing hopes - since Sept 1 when saw number of approvals after my PD/RD/ND etc..but there is really nothing that can predict this system.
Here is my journey - encapsulated:
PD- June 04
I485 files on July 2nd 2007 - NSC
RD 8/4/2207
SR #1: 9/4/2209
SR #2" 9/11/2209
Senator contact: 9/10/2009 and 9/11/2009
Infopass: 9/15/2009
CPO emails: 9/17/2009
Hang in there - open SRs and contact your senators!!!
I CAN NOT BELIEVE THIS...this morning 10:00AM CST we got the CPO emails for both of us...
I just can not thank Aall of you enough and the IV community for the support they have provided over the last few years - especially since Sept 1.
THANK YOU GOD - THANKS FOR LISTENING.
I will be around - not going anywhere and will support IV efforts!
BEST OF LUCK FOR THOSE WHO ARE WAITING...Believe me "appka bhi number aayega" I was loosing hopes - since Sept 1 when saw number of approvals after my PD/RD/ND etc..but there is really nothing that can predict this system.
Here is my journey - encapsulated:
PD- June 04
I485 files on July 2nd 2007 - NSC
RD 8/4/2207
SR #1: 9/4/2209
SR #2" 9/11/2209
Senator contact: 9/10/2009 and 9/11/2009
Infopass: 9/15/2009
CPO emails: 9/17/2009
Hang in there - open SRs and contact your senators!!!
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deba
01-30 08:10 PM
Note: the question # keeps changing. Now it is #69, I wonder if it has something to do with the no of votes for each question.
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wandmaker
12-01 08:53 PM
how about being a monthly charge of some amount to be members who can post/respond. Others can read but not post. This way you will know exactly how many paid members you have and amount you can expect monthly
how about breaking this into multiple levels.
(1) account maintenance fee: charge $1/month for maintaining the account, members who paid this fee will have read access to all threads except IV core updates. IV can generate $25K a month with this option, this can cover day to day expenses.
(2) usage fee: charge $??/month for using the IV forums, members who paid this free can post and respond and read IV updates.
how about breaking this into multiple levels.
(1) account maintenance fee: charge $1/month for maintaining the account, members who paid this fee will have read access to all threads except IV core updates. IV can generate $25K a month with this option, this can cover day to day expenses.
(2) usage fee: charge $??/month for using the IV forums, members who paid this free can post and respond and read IV updates.
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bobzibub
11-01 05:57 PM
What is this reverse brain drain ? there is no such thing - folks who are here are going to hang on tooth & nail to stay here come hell or high water - the only ones who are going back are the ones who have no other option.
If one shows more loyalty than that shown by that entity, then one is a fool. That entity could be a country, party, company, spouse.
Right now, one entity (US government) is not showing much interest in our condition. That level of loyalty should be reciprocated but no more.
If one shows more loyalty than that shown by that entity, then one is a fool. That entity could be a country, party, company, spouse.
Right now, one entity (US government) is not showing much interest in our condition. That level of loyalty should be reciprocated but no more.
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mpadapa
08-13 12:39 PM
If you can porting to EB2 is always a better choice.
For EB3-I's with PD > 2005 it is worth the risk even with the gray area that USCIS may not accept the porting. An EB2 I PD of 2008/9 will always be better than EB3 I PD > 2005.
HR 5882 is the only solution for all atleast for this year.
For EB3-I's with PD > 2005 it is worth the risk even with the gray area that USCIS may not accept the porting. An EB2 I PD of 2008/9 will always be better than EB3 I PD > 2005.
HR 5882 is the only solution for all atleast for this year.
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anzerraja
07-20 10:24 AM
We are waiting for the word from core team members on this important issue. No response yet.
Hi Everybody it is a great idea to reimburse aman. Absolutely we have to do it through IV. it is not good idea giving personal checks. what happens when Aman submits his federal taxes. he has to mention everything about the money trail. In America everything should be trailable especially money matters.
giving money through IV is safe for him and for everybody and there is an accountablity everywhere. As a core member he can collect his administrative costs.
So whatever the pledge amouts we are doing should be sent to IV then to Aman.
Any suggestions......
Hi Everybody it is a great idea to reimburse aman. Absolutely we have to do it through IV. it is not good idea giving personal checks. what happens when Aman submits his federal taxes. he has to mention everything about the money trail. In America everything should be trailable especially money matters.
giving money through IV is safe for him and for everybody and there is an accountablity everywhere. As a core member he can collect his administrative costs.
So whatever the pledge amouts we are doing should be sent to IV then to Aman.
Any suggestions......
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ilikekilo
05-14 12:56 PM
LOL.. nitin...whoever yo uare... you are a piece of work..I feel sorry for you..
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kshitijnt
07-17 09:53 PM
Recapturing lost numbers is not a permanent solution. Per country limit 7% is ridiculous. We need to make sure we are not discriminated against by the per country limit. Its not my fault that someone from Europe doesnt want to come here and not so many from Africa or south america qualify for the EB visas.
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I didn't find where in the PDF AILA is saying the definition is illegal!
They provide one example a court ruling where the EE definition was established in the case of an insurance agent. But such an issue has already been address by the EE memo by USCIS (Temporary/Occasional Off-Site Employment).
Is it your own interpretation that the EE definition in the memo is illegal or did you read it somewhere in AILA's response?
AILA Memo (http://www.laborimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/AILA-Memo-Seeking-Revokation-of-Neufeld-Memorandum.pdf)
Page 3
The AAO�s analysis contained in non-precedent decisions but cited repeatedly by adjudicators to justify RFEs, NOIDs and Denials -- and now expressed in the AFM revisions regarding H-1B petitions -- begins with the proposition that the beneficiary in any employment-based nonimmigrant or immigrant petition must be an �employee� of the petitioning employer. The AAO then notes that the term �employee� is not clearly defined anywhere in the INA and concludes that absent such a definition, under Darden and Clackamas, it must look to the common law definition of employee to determine who is and is not eligible for employment-based benefits under the INA.2 While the common law definition employs a multi-factor test, the AAO and subsequent adjudications, and the Neufeld Memorandum, have focused almost exclusively on one element: control.
AILA memo deals with multiple issues in the memo, not just consulting company scenario. (L1, Self sponsoring employee etc) Hence we can get lost while reading the memo. Central to the argument is "Common Law" that AILA hasn't gone in depth.
desi3933,
Please refer AILA memo (http://www.laborimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/AILA-Memo-Seeking-Revokation-of-Neufeld-Memorandum.pdf) as they have already detailed the law points in it.
Also you seem to be quoting USCIS documents. If USCIS was clear about the law, they wouldn't have issued this memo in the first place. If USCIS memo contradicts INA, INA prevails.
They provide one example a court ruling where the EE definition was established in the case of an insurance agent. But such an issue has already been address by the EE memo by USCIS (Temporary/Occasional Off-Site Employment).
Is it your own interpretation that the EE definition in the memo is illegal or did you read it somewhere in AILA's response?
AILA Memo (http://www.laborimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/AILA-Memo-Seeking-Revokation-of-Neufeld-Memorandum.pdf)
Page 3
The AAO�s analysis contained in non-precedent decisions but cited repeatedly by adjudicators to justify RFEs, NOIDs and Denials -- and now expressed in the AFM revisions regarding H-1B petitions -- begins with the proposition that the beneficiary in any employment-based nonimmigrant or immigrant petition must be an �employee� of the petitioning employer. The AAO then notes that the term �employee� is not clearly defined anywhere in the INA and concludes that absent such a definition, under Darden and Clackamas, it must look to the common law definition of employee to determine who is and is not eligible for employment-based benefits under the INA.2 While the common law definition employs a multi-factor test, the AAO and subsequent adjudications, and the Neufeld Memorandum, have focused almost exclusively on one element: control.
AILA memo deals with multiple issues in the memo, not just consulting company scenario. (L1, Self sponsoring employee etc) Hence we can get lost while reading the memo. Central to the argument is "Common Law" that AILA hasn't gone in depth.
desi3933,
Please refer AILA memo (http://www.laborimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/AILA-Memo-Seeking-Revokation-of-Neufeld-Memorandum.pdf) as they have already detailed the law points in it.
Also you seem to be quoting USCIS documents. If USCIS was clear about the law, they wouldn't have issued this memo in the first place. If USCIS memo contradicts INA, INA prevails.
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ras
07-02 12:53 AM
following few more reasons may be added.
- When a new employee arrives his/her knowledge of immigration matters is quite less and doesn't intend to take risks of going against the employers wishes. This is being exploited by many employers by way of threatening to cancel H1, intimidating that they will have to return back, instilling fear in all ways and means in the employees about the negative aspects. This leads the employee to think and step back in going against the employer.
Soln : Better educate the new employee about his rights as soon as he arrives. This could be either through forums, websites or even an official supplement from USCIS which should be handed over to the employee when his H1 is approved. ( It could mention and clear all myths officially by USCIS). This instills courage in the employee to question the employer if not go ahead with law suits. Also, this even may reduce threatening by the employer.
- Further most of the employees want their career slate to be clean without any law suit, dots, etc until their life is secured by way of GC approvals or some form of assurance from the Govt. This makes them step back on taking action against the employer.
Soln: Well if there could be a system where anonymous complaints/whistle blowers are allowed, they probably may come out. However, rarely employee wants to reveal his identity though he suffers.
- The immigration matters are so complicated with so many RFE's people are scared to add another their event to their history. Any transaction with USCIS is kind of a risky feel for the employee.
Soln: This feeling should be removed.
- immigration decisions are uncertain so people want to be cautious in taking bold steps.
Soln : There should be assurance from USCIS that provided everything on the candidates side is good that his GC will be approved. If an employee believes that based on his/her good credentials in all respects they should assured be of a GC, they may come forward to fight against the erring employers
Soln: How do we make employee believe if everything is right on their part, an appropriate decision will be taken by USCIS. People still dont have confidence in USCIS decision making process.
- And for GC applicants, they fear anything against the employer would affect their GC process. At every stage (Labor, I 140 and I 485 ) they are being exploited in one or the other way. Always it the employee who is at the loosing end. I have never seen an empoyer loosing because of an employee...
These are some of the thoughts...
- When a new employee arrives his/her knowledge of immigration matters is quite less and doesn't intend to take risks of going against the employers wishes. This is being exploited by many employers by way of threatening to cancel H1, intimidating that they will have to return back, instilling fear in all ways and means in the employees about the negative aspects. This leads the employee to think and step back in going against the employer.
Soln : Better educate the new employee about his rights as soon as he arrives. This could be either through forums, websites or even an official supplement from USCIS which should be handed over to the employee when his H1 is approved. ( It could mention and clear all myths officially by USCIS). This instills courage in the employee to question the employer if not go ahead with law suits. Also, this even may reduce threatening by the employer.
- Further most of the employees want their career slate to be clean without any law suit, dots, etc until their life is secured by way of GC approvals or some form of assurance from the Govt. This makes them step back on taking action against the employer.
Soln: Well if there could be a system where anonymous complaints/whistle blowers are allowed, they probably may come out. However, rarely employee wants to reveal his identity though he suffers.
- The immigration matters are so complicated with so many RFE's people are scared to add another their event to their history. Any transaction with USCIS is kind of a risky feel for the employee.
Soln: This feeling should be removed.
- immigration decisions are uncertain so people want to be cautious in taking bold steps.
Soln : There should be assurance from USCIS that provided everything on the candidates side is good that his GC will be approved. If an employee believes that based on his/her good credentials in all respects they should assured be of a GC, they may come forward to fight against the erring employers
Soln: How do we make employee believe if everything is right on their part, an appropriate decision will be taken by USCIS. People still dont have confidence in USCIS decision making process.
- And for GC applicants, they fear anything against the employer would affect their GC process. At every stage (Labor, I 140 and I 485 ) they are being exploited in one or the other way. Always it the employee who is at the loosing end. I have never seen an empoyer loosing because of an employee...
These are some of the thoughts...
desi3933
08-20 11:23 AM
I agree and actually this is a time wasting thread. it is good that he got this citizenship and I guess he is happy but what about others who are struggling to get a gc? and this statement really irritated me "I know, the wait time is long, but it is worth it every bit."
maybe they should make new citizens apply for passport every year and tell them to renew DL every year and after few years I will ask him if the wait was worth it ??
I will still say "it is worth it". This is my opinion and you certainly can have a different opinion.
If you think that the GC is not worth the wait then I suggest that you withdraw your I-485 application asap. ;)
maybe they should make new citizens apply for passport every year and tell them to renew DL every year and after few years I will ask him if the wait was worth it ??
I will still say "it is worth it". This is my opinion and you certainly can have a different opinion.
If you think that the GC is not worth the wait then I suggest that you withdraw your I-485 application asap. ;)
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